Podcast with Harry Verhoeven and Anatol Lieven, editors of “Beyond Liberal Order: States, Societies and Markets in the Global Indian Ocean”
We often neglect the Indian Ocean when we talk about our macro-level models of geopolitics, global economics or grand strategy—often in favor of the Atlantic or the Pacific. Yet the Indian Ocean—along whose coasts live a third of humanity—may be a better vehicle to understand how our world is changing.














